i'm horny

Hmm, maybe an anti-cliche, or just the lack of one...

Lack of factbooks that talks about their more mundane but essential industries. Come on, I want to know about your foodstuff, books that your nation has published, stationery (I actually saw this once), and many more.

An IKEA in space is sometimes all you need to corner the galaxy.

Khoronzon wrote:

Miku the Based wrote:Why does people online horny.

the most pressing question of our age

Surrealist Patagonia wrote:i'm horny

reject civility embrace horny ooo o oo eee eee

Reverberating Days wrote: Join me in creating militaries that are weaker than their neighbours' and have to use guerilla tactics.

Dysentery and no fresh water do the fighting for me.

Reverberating Days wrote: Join me in creating militaries that are weaker than their neighbours' and have to use guerilla tactics.

you just want me to write a power using people's war don't you

Did that with OA, when I get around to retconning it I can make it more pronounced.

Dayganistan wrote:As a fully MT nation I would honestly say MT and PMT are the worst tech levels for wank on NS right now. But II is completely overrun with horrendous one liner war RPs as a whole anyway, the fact that it's all MT and PMT nations who read Tom Clancy for the first time a week ago or play too many arcade shooters doing it is merely a coincidence.

II is where effortposters go to die, for the most part.

Then again, the Venn diagram of one-liner war RPs and people who want gameside to have a war feature is rather close to being a circle.

Surrealist Patagonia wrote:i'm horny

i'm no longer horny

i'm happy

To be honest I relate FT Nations to Paladins.

You have a long list of people who do it bad, because it's incredibly easy to get it wrong or maybe more correctly it's the easiest type of nation to do so poorly in such away that they've latched on to a stereotype that you simply can't escape.

Like Warhammer always gotta be Grimdark, Rogues always gotta be edgy, Anime watchers need to constantly be hit with the Horny Jail Bat.

Coloring every FT Nation is easier as wank, then painting PMT nations (such as myself of course guys, trust me) and the like, because said nations worked very hard and are still working hard to live up to expectations.

Not that I have that probably anymore since I have a perfectly reasonable PMT nation.

Kiu Ghesik wrote:II is where effortposters go to die, for the most part.

I've definitely noticed this. It has its cycles of effortposting but the one liners take back over pretty quickly. I guess a lot of the effortposters just go to regions with closed canons. Which I've never really enjoyed because regions tend to be full of wanked up European equivalent powers that still have full on colonies in 2021 because ???? and perpetually empty middle east/central Asia equivalents for me to put my nation in and do nothing with.

Comerciante wrote:Anime watchers need to constantly be hit with the Horny Jail Bat.

For your information, I'm planning on making my new character (that recycles some of original Montse's design) wear a ballistic vest most of the time! That way, uh, I'm not forced to draw certain curves or bounciness! In most of the pictures. Ok, maybe in half of the sketches I have completed.

...

*Ahem* This site is for good boys and girls. And Montse went the way of Mai in Super Smash Bros.

Las Palmeras wrote:

Comerciante wrote:Anime watchers need to constantly be hit with the Horny Jail Bat.

For your information, I'm planning on making my new character (that recycles some of original Montse's design) wear a ballistic vest most of the time! That way, uh, I'm not forced to draw certain curves or bounciness! In most of the pictures. Ok, maybe in half of the sketches I have completed.

...

*Ahem* This site is for good boys and girls. And Montse went the way of Mai in Super Smash Bros.

inb4 Joshua Graham jokes because haha funni SWAT tactical vest or smthn

For bonus points, toss in some bandages.

Las Palmeras wrote:

Comerciante wrote:Anime watchers need to constantly be hit with the Horny Jail Bat.

For your information, I'm planning on making my new character (that recycles some of original Montse's design) wear a ballistic vest most of the time! That way, uh, I'm not forced to draw certain curves or bounciness! In most of the pictures. Ok, maybe in half of the sketches I have completed.

...

*Ahem* This site is for good boys and girls. And Montse went the way of Mai in Super Smash Bros.

are you telling me that that character wasn't terasu?

there's two of them now?

Rip old Montse. Which I never saw, something I'm not sure to be grateful or sad about.

Dayganistan wrote:I've definitely noticed this. It has its cycles of effortposting but the one liners take back over pretty quickly. I guess a lot of the effortposters just go to regions with closed canons. Which I've never really enjoyed because regions tend to be full of wanked up European equivalent powers that still have full on colonies in 2021 because ???? and perpetually empty middle east/central Asia equivalents for me to put my nation in and do nothing with.

I am proud to say that I've made effortposts in II before. Entropic Sunrise is at 30k+ words and counting, boys.

Yeah, I think the only good closed region RP I've ever seen was Cybus' region's.

Dayganistan wrote:

Kiu Ghesik wrote:II is where effortposters go to die, for the most part.

I've definitely noticed this. It has its cycles of effortposting but the one liners take back over pretty quickly. I guess a lot of the effortposters just go to regions with closed canons. Which I've never really enjoyed because regions tend to be full of wanked up European equivalent powers that still have full on colonies in 2021 because ???? and perpetually empty middle east/central Asia equivalents for me to put my nation in and do nothing with.

Hooboy, speaking of Euro-powers with colonies in the 2020s, or just any sort of "empire" with colonies, I'm guilty of that one, though it's mostly a recent acquisition and it hasn't had any historical basis other than "oo oo aa aa invasion", needless to say, the EU and PRC over here in my 'verse are probably the ONLY nations who have "colonies" of a sort, hell, not even the O N E nation that is technically classified as an empire over here, the Empire of Japan, has any colonies, if anything they lost home territory instead. Poor Okinawa.

Khoronzon wrote:

Miku the Based wrote:Why does people online horny.

the most pressing question of our age

In celebration of this poignant piece of social commentary, I've decided to immortalise it in artistic form to truly capture the spirit of our times that this statement embodies.

Khoronzon wrote:

Khoronzon wrote:the most pressing question of our age

In celebration of this poignant piece of social commentary, I've decided to immortalise it in artistic form to truly capture the spirit of our times that this statement embodies.

is it bad that i actually want to put this on my wall

Russian-American Continental Alliance wrote:...hell, not even the O N E nation that is technically classified as an empire over here, the Empire of Japan, has any colonies, if anything they lost home territory instead. Poor Okinawa.

The Ottomans circa any time after the 1600s felt that.

Khoronzon wrote:

Khoronzon wrote:the most pressing question of our age

In celebration of this poignant piece of social commentary, I've decided to immortalise it in artistic form to truly capture the spirit of our times that this statement embodies.

*Miku the Based liked this.*
*Maybe.*

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Kiu Ghesik wrote:are you telling me that that character wasn't terasu?

there's two of them now?

Rip old Montse. Which I never saw, something I'm not sure to be grateful or sad about.

Considering the setting in Tohorin is a Weird Western, no the character is not Terasu, it's Rairai...whose bio is more of a brainstorm than a coherent story right now. I kinda like the story of a struggling bounty hunter though, I watched the Eastwood Dollars movies and the Mandalorian and I've been feeling inspired. So much that I've made several sketches after a very lethargic period.

I'm a reclusive type, but I have to confess that the end of 2020 was really hard on me (COVID related issues with my close family) and that my relative inactivity throughout the second half of December and most of January were both due to IRL business and depression; but now that things seem better, I've gotten back to the old hobby with some eagerness and I really want to try to flesh out characters better. I think I'm worse than George Lucas when it comes to that stuff: I can world-build and organize macro-scale fiction fairly well but my characters are damn cardboard cutouts with flat dialogue. My RP with Catsfern shows that I really need to exercise my narrative ability.

Designs for me are just another part of narrative ability because they convey personality; the most difficult thing has been balancing "sexy" with "capable". A lot of people that use anime characters seem to forget that, I mean in terms of aesthetics and clothings' practicality. And I want somebody gritty and tough-looking.

Russian-American Continental Alliance wrote:
inb4 Joshua Graham jokes because haha funni SWAT tactical vest or smthn

For bonus points, toss in some bandages.

Nah, Lord Tachanka as Lady Tachanka if I go the Ned Kelly route.

Las Palmeras wrote:Considering the setting in Tohorin is a Weird Western, no the character is not Terasu, it's Rairai...whose bio is more of a brainstorm than a coherent story right now. I kinda like the story of a struggling bounty hunter though, I watched the Eastwood Dollars movies and the Mandalorian and I've been feeling inspired. So much that I've made several sketches after a very lethargic period.

I saw that bio, it's really quite good. I'm definitely fond of the character just based off the bio alone and I'd be lying if part of my getting back into M22 wasn't because I just watched the Mandalorian season 2. I'm glad to hear that you were getting into making the character, though.

I'm a reclusive type, but I have to confess that the end of 2020 was really hard on me (COVID related issues with my close family) and that my relative inactivity throughout the second half of December and most of January were both due to IRL business and depression; but now that things seem better, I've gotten back to the old hobby with some eagerness and I really want to try to flesh out characters better. I think I'm worse than George Lucas when it comes to that stuff: I can world-build and organize macro-scale fiction fairly well but my characters are damn cardboard cutouts with flat dialogue. My RP with Catsfern shows that I really need to exercise my narrative ability.

Funnily enough it's actually the opposite for me. I write more when shit goes bad, because it's an escape on my part.

No comment on my activity recently.

And of course I'm far better at characters than macro-scale processes, as my bumbled efforts to explain colbureau show. Conceptualizing states or factions to some extent as characters works, but it can only go so far in that field.

And yeah, I'd say that dialogue in general is hard; that being said I really do think sortof!commie!Tepka's dialogue at least was great. Especially the metacommentary in it, that was really nice.

Designs for me are just another part of narrative ability because they convey personality; the most difficult thing has been balancing "sexy" with "capable". A lot of people that use anime characters seem to forget that. And I want somebody gritty and tough-looking.

I would concur with that first part about conveying personality but I wouldn't know, I couldn't draw faces if my life depended on it. Thus I'm stuck with finding relatively accurate bits of artwork for characters.

And don't get me started on that second part, I have... thoughts... on it. Rant-y ones.

Las Palmeras wrote:
Designs for me are just another part of narrative ability because they convey personality; the most difficult thing has been balancing "sexy" with "capable". A lot of people that use anime characters seem to forget that. And I want somebody gritty and tough-looking.

In my honest experience, designs can be fooling, for example, one of my characters, a certain Japanese woman, looks like a fairly cute and "sexy" person, but underneath that and you've got a person whose face got burned off during a Korean-centric conflict and a hatred faaar more powerful than a simple 5.56 round. Speaking of that character, I've somehow managed to get a friend of mine, Terra Britania, to simp for her for shits and giggles.

If there's any characters of mine that look "capable", I have Townes, Suvorov, the Supreme Commanders of all three PPA-aligned factions, Private Alvin Payne and Efreytor Dimitri and many more, though Ironside looks like a gentle old soldier, he's basically a Drill Sergeant when it comes to his personality on the field. And on the "cute" side, we have the people with anime portraits, though to quote the "notable individuals" dispatch (not verbatim).

"My buds in the DIA say the people listed here with 'anime' portraits are unhinged at best."

Designs can be fun to fool people with. The Supreme Commander could be mistaken for your average 1990s Gulf War soldier while on the field, and some people would most likely be surprised when they meet the Yamami-Romanov parents, both of them having...uh...less than sane tendencies sometimes. Townes looks like some evil genius when he's just the guy who spends 40 years calibrating a laser so that it burns at full power.

My standard operating procedure...sometimes is "Never judge a person by their portrait, but give your opinion on them once you've read about what they can do."

Nah, Lord Tachanka as Lady Tachanka if I go the Ned Kelly route.

Oh lord, B I G armor time.

Kiu Ghesik wrote:I saw that bio, it's really quite good. I'm definitely fond of the character just based off the bio alone and I'd be lying if part of my getting back into M22 wasn't because I just watched the Mandalorian season 2. I'm glad to hear that you were getting into making the character, though.

This is the way.

Kiu Ghesik wrote:Funnily enough it's actually the opposite for me. I write more when shit goes bad, because it's an escape on my part.

No comment on my activity recently.

And of course I'm far better at characters than macro-scale processes, as my bumbled efforts to explain colbureau show. Conceptualizing states or factions to some extent as characters works, but it can only go so far in that field.

And yeah, I'd say that dialogue in general is hard; that being said I really do think sortof!commie!Tepka's dialogue at least was great. Especially the metacommentary in it, that was really nice.

Haha, yeah. I remember I used to like being stressed before working on assignments because I'd pull more effort if I didn't burn out. You've done a good job at conveying how Ghes society is formed in a micro scale though, it's like a Giovanni Levi book describing how world-views are formed and transformed...the bits about the Sky Mother and the use of tools sorta give out those vibes.

As for Tepka, I'd have to thank you and your advice on "protagonist-centered morality" IIRC. I do have the intent of making her a manipulative seductress, but also an ethnocentric patriot who thinks she's doing what's right...and also a conflicted person who actually does love the prince on a personal level despite disdaining what he represents.

Kiu Ghesik wrote:And don't get me started on that second part, I have... thoughts... on it. Rant-y ones.

I'm gonna make Rairai show her midriff in the start of her career because it looks cool and hot. Then she gets stabbed and decides to buy protection.

Russian-American Continental Alliance wrote:
*snip"

Yeah, deception can be fun . But I guess I just really like playing around with more caricaturesque ways of emphasizing personality. Maybe not to the extent of good characters with angel wings and bad guys with twirling moustaches.

Russian-American Continental Alliance wrote:Oh lord, B I G armor time.

The biggest armor I've ever sketched.

Russian-American Continental Alliance wrote:

Las Palmeras wrote:
Designs for me are just another part of narrative ability because they convey personality; the most difficult thing has been balancing "sexy" with "capable". A lot of people that use anime characters seem to forget that. And I want somebody gritty and tough-looking.

In my honest experience, designs can be fooling, for example, one of my characters, a certain Japanese woman, looks like a fairly cute and "sexy" person, but underneath that and you've got a person whose face got burned off during a Korean-centric conflict and a hatred faaar more powerful than a simple 5.56 round.

Ah, yes, based tea girl.

Speaking of that character, I've somehow managed to get a friend of mine, Terra Britania, to simp for her for shits and giggles.

Hey, I've seen this one!

...My standard operating procedure...sometimes is "Never judge a person by their portrait, but give your opinion on them once you've read about what they can do."

Oh, yeah, definitely. The problem there, though, is that you actually have to write a compelling character. Easier said than done at the end of the day.

Las Palmeras wrote:Haha, yeah. I remember I used to like being stressed before working on assignments because I'd pull more effort if I didn't burn out. You've done a good job at conveying how Ghes society is formed in a micro scale though, it's like a Giovanni Levi book describing how world-views are formed and transformed...the bits about the Sky Mother and the use of tools sorta give out those vibes.

As for Tepka, I'd have to thank you and your advice on "protagonist-centered morality" IIRC. I do have the intent of making her a manipulative seductress, but also an ethnocentric patriot who thinks she's doing what's right...and also a conflicted person who actually does love the prince on a personal level despite disdaining what he represents.

Hey, I helped!

I will say that I tried to build the Ghesite society from the ground up as best I could; most of my cultural stuff is actually based off of using Ari's band specifically as a microcosm for "stereotypical Khadusik band" and then building off that. I'm eventually going to do a factbook on that but it's still a bit out there in ye olde schedule, and I've tried to get more into the macro-level stuff (especially with Khauvighn's myth and analyzing how it relates to their worldview) but it's definitely a work in progress in those regards.

I'm gonna make Rairai show her midriff in the start of her career because it looks cool and hot. Then she gets stabbed and decides to buy protection.

Being stabbed does tend to do that to you.

eee now i'm excited for the character

RE: Horny players

*laughs in asexual*

Concerning the development of charaters I'd rather stay honest about what inspirations and derivations I make of certain charaters. Rather not make another bootleg copy of София Павловна from black lagoon and try to avoid all this war stuff. War seems like a big thing for NS and like the others I hate what that kind of devolves into, a battle of witty writing and compairing spec sheets. At worst petty squabbling at best the kind of naive posturing that NGO's have with doing wargames before realizing they screwed up big time if ever implimented IRL (see 2006 sadr city and 1st Calvary). Maybe just play some D&D game where you determine casulty numbers by roll of dice.
About staying honest with inspirations I'm going to take the templates from crytpon future media which they provided for everyone to use and make them into some diplomatic figure/deity. Avoid war to avoid the pitfalls of doing what I described before, and focus on other aspects of nation building like trade, construction, energy consumption, terraforming, product production method and figures. Probably insert a demonstration Cockshotts methods in a economy fact book.
Art especially in the realm of game and movie making dans to be to grab already existing infrastructure and build off there. That said using open source and freeware assets and engines. "Stand on the shoulder of giants" so to speak. It's important to know and accredit the giant.
Tangentally speaking, I don't have very much drive. The amount of effort I put into stuff is neigh existant. There is a factor of purpose (what purpose do I have for this RP) and importance (how important does this RP mean to me and what importance messages imbued in it convey to the audience) when dealing with stuff so far stand at a impasse with this nation. I think the setting is good and it seems a good springboard, but I don't know where to take it from here for fear of solidifying the rp in a catagory (MT stay in MT realm, PMT stay in PMT realm, FT and so forth)

This is related to one-line posting, but in the "Guess where the AN is from" thread, people always seem to guess vague answers like "Somewhere in the US" or "somewhere in Europe". I'm expecting a specific city/state/province, darn it.

The Polar Nation wrote:This is related to one-line posting, but in the "Guess where the AN is from" thread, people always seem to guess vague answers like "Somewhere in the US" or "somewhere in Europe". I'm expecting a specific city/state/province, darn it.

Most people on this site are Americans and do you really expect Americans to know specific geography?

I live in the United States so I'm allowed to make jokes like this

"Expecting effort in F7 is like expecting to win gold in gacha games. You are never rewarded for hoping for things to happen, but when they do you question if all the pain was worth it in the end."

-OOC

Dayganistan wrote:

Kiu Ghesik wrote:Yeah, that sounds about right. Not much more to say, really, that's pretty much an accurate summary of what I've observed. I think I only really noticed it recently because I saw one of those same "MT-PMT nation that exists to spew numbers onto the page and go 'haha, i desert stormed ur poor-ass shithole nation, look at how smart i am i read tom clancy once'" people call a rather well-written bit of FT material wank just because it happened to be described as not being bad at its role, and it just sort of irked me the wrong way.

As a fully MT nation I would honestly say MT and PMT are the worst tech levels for wank on NS right now. But II is completely overrun with horrendous one liner war RPs as a whole anyway, the fact that it's all MT and PMT nations who read Tom Clancy for the first time a week ago or play too many arcade shooters doing it is merely a coincidence.

Reverberating Days wrote: Join me in creating militaries that are weaker than their neighbours' and have to use guerilla tactics.

These above goes with a lot of things, but I'd say that MT is simply the tech level most prone to powerwank. And no I'm not talking about the obvious "We sent 1,000,000 soldiers on your shores to conduct an amphibious invasion" on some irrelevant international affair no one cares, but they're included. MT low-key powerwankers are known for their incessant ignorance of logistics no matter what, industrial base, Godmodding diplomatic relations like "this nation allowed me to land my troops there, airbases and missile silos for no good reason and now they've joined my alliance for no good reason", difficulty of amphibious invasions and ignoring guerilla warfare.

I'd say that's probably because FT and PMT as purely imaginary domains are unexplored and can be host to creative writing, but since MT already happened IRL you have to play by a modicum of RL knowledge to play realistically, which simply needs time and effort that most people either can't afford, are simply disinterested or simply willfully ignorant to partake in. The same goes for PT, but PT is moreso obscure that you're not going to partake in (especially in earlier timescales) unless that is simply your genuine interest.

Another cliche I've noticed among MT nations, especially among the neoliberal nations of Grail, SETA, LITA and others is the stubborn compliance to First World NATO and US military models without effort or explanation as to why their nations suddenly had amassed an industrial base or economy that allows them to, or why do their nations even need it in the first place.
It's always "ooh I have Gerald Ford supercarrier!" "ooh I have F-35 Lightning stealth aircraft! "ooh I have nuclear SSBN!" "ooh I have stealth destroyer!" "ooh I have powerful exoskeleton suit!" without deconstruction as to how their nation has suddenly amassed weapons that only Russia, China and US has IRL even if "they are trying to play as a realistic MT nation". Bonus points if they're playing as a First World liberal democracy that's not really going to be threatened by anyone and suddenly feels the need to amass a powerful military and nuclear program.

I consider these as low-key MT versions of having "interstellar space ships that spew lasers" considering that I've seen very few MT nations that diverge from these cliche models such as one based on asymmetric warfare, guerilla warfare and other unconventional forms of modern warfare. Realistically, if your nation focuses too much on the military and if you're not US, China or Russia, you'd inadvertently sacrifice other areas or you lack resources so you are forced to play asymmetrically - an interesting angle I simply don't see among NS nations. There are very few nations here that go the narrowly traveled path when in fact MT military need not be uncreative - such as Viet Cong's guerilla tactics, Albania's bunkers, Iran's Mad Max navy tactics, midget submarines, human torpedoes, Somalian pirates, Afghan Mujahideens and DPRK's general shenanigans -that MT military building in NS as it for now seems to be overall monotonous and dull.

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